Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/02/2002 01:56 PM House FIN

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
HOUSE BILL NO. 160                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An Act requiring the reporting of induced terminations                                                                     
     of pregnancies.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHN COGHILL,  SPONSOR, spoke  in support  of                                                                   
the  legislation.   He  noted  that  the   legislation  would                                                                   
implement a  reporting system  on abortion. He  observed that                                                                   
the  reporting  system  would  provide  information  on  teen                                                                   
pregnancy while  protecting confidentiality.  The information                                                                   
obtained  through  the provision  would  allow  the state  to                                                                   
respond  to  policy  issues  ranging  from  contraception  to                                                                   
education.  There  would be  a  30-day reporting  period.  An                                                                   
annual  report  would  come  through   the  Bureau  of  Vital                                                                   
Statistics. Most  states have similar programs  through their                                                                   
Bureaus of Vital  Statistics. There is a $78  thousand dollar                                                                   
fiscal note.  The Centers for  Disease Control (CDC)  and the                                                                   
American   Civil   Liberties   Union   (ACLU)   support   the                                                                   
legislation.  The legislation  would  provide information  on                                                                   
the  number of  abortions, the  number of  abortions tied  to                                                                   
various  health  issues,  percentage  of  abortions  in  each                                                                   
trimester,  and the number  of abortions  in rural  vs. urban                                                                   
areas.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  John   Davies  acknowledged   protections  to                                                                   
confidentiality  but questioned how  the statistics  would be                                                                   
derived.   Representative   Coghill    explained   that   the                                                                   
legislation  does not  require  comprehensive reporting,  but                                                                   
would be an additional  tool to be used in assessing  what is                                                                   
happening in the state.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DANIELLE  SERINO,  STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE   COGHILL  provided                                                                   
information on the legislation.  In response to a question by                                                                   
Representative Bunde,  she clarified that  Planned Parenthood                                                                   
and  the Alaska  Right  to  Life organizations  testified  in                                                                   
support of the legislation in previous hearings.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coghill  observed   that  there  are  certain                                                                   
monetary  benefits  to  the  state based  on  the  number  of                                                                   
abortions,  which  would  benefit   Planned  Parenthood.  The                                                                   
statistics  could also  be used  to support  a case for  some                                                                   
other public policy.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Serino explained  that insurance would not  be negatively                                                                   
affected  by definitions  contained  in  section  (b) of  the                                                                   
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coghill  reiterated  that  the intent  is  to                                                                   
determine  the number  of abortions  in the  state of  Alaska                                                                   
through  the  Department  of   Health  and  Social  Services,                                                                   
Division of Vital  Statistics. He observed that  there are no                                                                   
reports at the current time, which  include these statistics.                                                                   
Live  births,  fetal  deaths and  some  sexually  transmitted                                                                   
diseases   are  reported   through   the   Bureau  of   Vital                                                                   
Statistics.   The  category   would   be  protected   through                                                                   
confidentiality.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
KAREN  PEARSON,  DIRECTOR,  DIVISION   OF  VITAL  STATISTICS,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT OF  HEALTH AND SOCIAL  SERVICES, spoke  in support                                                                   
of the legislation. She clarified  that the legislation would                                                                   
bring the state  into compliance with the CDC  guidelines and                                                                   
maintain privacy  protections. The  change in the  definition                                                                   
of fetal death  would not have any other  implications beyond                                                                   
statistical  information.  The   Division  concurs  with  the                                                                   
fiscal notes.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KAREN  VOSBURGH, EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR, ALASKA  RIGHT TO  LIFE,                                                                   
MATSU,  testified  via  teleconference   in  support  of  the                                                                   
legislation. She questioned if  there would be data regarding                                                                   
the cause, age  of mother, work status,  location (outpatient                                                                   
or office)  or the trimester  that the abortion  takes place.                                                                   
Representative Coghill  explained that the report  form would                                                                   
note the  type of  abortion (whether  it was  a live  birth),                                                                   
gestational period, and national origin or race status.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Serino explained  that the report would have  much of the                                                                   
information  mentioned but  noted  that personal  information                                                                   
would not be  available to the public. The  patient would not                                                                   
be identified. The  final report would have  the summation of                                                                   
the  statistics.  Representative  Coghill observed  that  the                                                                   
statute only requires  a report of the fact that  there was a                                                                   
termination  of  pregnancy. Ms.  Vosburgh  expressed  concern                                                                   
that death of the mother be reported.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ANNE  HARRISON, FAIRBANKS,  testified  via teleconference  in                                                                   
support  of the legislation.  She noted  that the  statistics                                                                   
could  be used  for  scientific  and research  purposes,  but                                                                   
expressed  concern regarding lapses  in confidentiality.  She                                                                   
referred to section  6: "fetal death" means  death before the                                                                   
complete expulsion.  She questioned  if any  sign of  life in                                                                   
the fetus after the abortion would  put the provider in legal                                                                   
jeopardy. She  referred to section  8 line 2 and  stated that                                                                   
she  would  add a  period  after:   "induced  termination  of                                                                   
pregnancy"   means   the  purposeful   interruption   of   an                                                                   
intrauterine pregnancy."  She felt that the  remainder of the                                                                   
section  was redundant:  "with  the intention  other than  to                                                                   
produce a  live-born infant,  and that does  not result  in a                                                                   
live birth,  except that  "induced termination of  pregnancy"                                                                   
does  not  include  management   of  prolonged  retention  of                                                                   
products of conception following  fetal death." She felt that                                                                   
the   language  was   emotionally  charged   and  should   be                                                                   
clarified.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coghill observed  that the language was copied                                                                   
from the  Family Planning  Prospective  Volume 30, Number  5,                                                                   
Appendix B.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BOB  LYNN,  PRESIDENT,  ALASKA   RIGHT  TO  LIFE,  ANCHORAGE,                                                                   
testified via  teleconference in support of  the legislation.                                                                   
He  maintained  that  more  and  better  information  can  do                                                                   
nothing but help regardless of  one's stance on the issue. He                                                                   
observed   that  governmental   policy   makers  and   health                                                                   
providers could use  the data for a multiple  of purposes. He                                                                   
observed that some studies have  shown an association between                                                                   
induced  abortion and  breast cancer.  Adequate reporting  of                                                                   
abortion,  linked to  the reporting  of  breast cancer  could                                                                   
resolve important questions.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  John  Davies   questioned  the  necessity  of                                                                   
language on  page 4, lines 3  - 6. Ms. Serino  explained that                                                                   
induced definition  of pregnancy is used by the  CDC and felt                                                                   
that the  language should  remain. She  added that  "does not                                                                   
include  management of  prolonged  retention  of products  of                                                                   
conception" relates to DNC procedures following abortions.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Coghill  stated  that if  the  language  were                                                                   
changed  that  he  would  recommend   the  inclusion  of  the                                                                   
language by Planned Parenthood, which is more encompassing.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pearson explained  that the  definition  is intended  to                                                                   
prevent the classification  of the procedure  where the fetus                                                                   
has terminated  prior to  the expulsion, in  order to  get an                                                                   
accurate   account    of   what   areas    actually   induced                                                                   
terminations, as  opposed to procedures  needed to  deliver a                                                                   
fetus that is no longer alive.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Mulder referred  to the  fiscal note.  He MOVED  to                                                                   
report CSHB 160 (JUD) out of Committee  with the accompanying                                                                   
fiscal note. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CSHB  160 (JUD)  was REPORTED  out  of Committee  with a  "do                                                                   
pass" recommendation  and with  a new  fiscal impact  note by                                                                   
the Department of Health and Social Services.                                                                                   

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